[Bleacher Report] 76ers don t want to deal PF Al Horford because of Bucks
美國媒體Bleacher Report日前報道稱,76人因為要對抗雄鹿而不愿交易大前鋒霍福德。
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[–]76ers forthestreamz 3243 指標 13小時前
someone please tell the front office that they:
a) need to win at least 1 series before they play the Bucks
b) will play at least 1 more series if they do beat the Bucks
76人球迷:麻煩誰去跟我們管理層說聲:
第一,我們季后賽碰上雄鹿之前,至少得贏一輪系列賽
第二,假如我們拿下了雄鹿,那至少還有一輪系列賽要打呢
[–]Bucks The_Sign_of_Zeta 183 指標 13小時前*
I mean, even if Horford *would help against the Bucks, that doesn t matter much if you lose in the 1st round, which is more likely than unlikely at this point as the 6th seed.
雄鹿球迷:我覺得呢,即便碰上雄鹿的時候霍福德能幫上忙,要是你輸掉了第一輪那也無濟于事啊。畢竟76人現在排名第6,輸掉首輪的可能性還是蠻大的。
[–][BOS] Pete Maravich LTweet 1388 指標 12小時前
Jokes on you, Elton is gunning for that 8 seed
凱爾特人球迷:開玩笑呢,布蘭德這是在瞄準東部第八
[–]Bucks iFinesseThePlug 280 指標 11小時前
Feels like that Horford contract is going to look horrible within two years.
He s almost 34 and he already looks a little slower.
雄鹿球迷:感覺兩年內霍福德的合同就很垃圾了。
他都快34了,而且已經有點慢了。
[–]76ers DJToastyBuns 251 指標 11小時前
a little
76人球迷:只是“有點”?
[–]76ers SonicdaSloth 111 指標 11小時前*
tbf he looked fine until a knee thing earlier in the year and then again for a stretch leading into the Lakers game. Come of there with a sore knee again and looks like grandpa Al.
doesn t help that our base matchups vs Boston had him guarding Jaylen
76人球迷:說實話,這賽季初期他還是可以的,后面膝蓋有問題就跟不上了,然后一直到打湖人的時候又強勢了一波。那會兒又開始膝蓋疼痛,場上看著就跟個老頭子一樣。
我們打波士頓他防杰倫-布朗的時候壓根出不上力。
[–]Salty-Flamingo 89 指標 10小時前
This was Al s story last season. He looks great when his knee isn t bothering him - but it seems to bother him a lot. I don t seem to remember too many big men aged 32+ with knee problems who got better. This is the beginning of the end for Al.
霍福德上賽季就這樣。膝傷沒騷擾他的時候,還不錯,不過膝傷經常影響他。在我印象中,被膝蓋問題困擾的大個子過了32歲還能夠提升表現的,著實不多。霍福德的NBA生涯開始步入尾聲了。
[–]TheTranquil Beavers 16 指標 10小時前
He s had that knee issue for a while now, but I m surprised at how quickly it has accelerated this year. He looks like he s on the brink of retirement out there at times, it s a real shame.
他這膝傷也有段日子了,不過我奇怪的是,怎么這賽季下滑得這么快。有時候感覺他都快退役了,真的遺憾啊。
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[–]76ers SonicdaSloth 41 指標 10小時前
team trying to squeeze the last drop out of Al.
76人球迷:我們這是要把他的最后一滴油榨干。
[–]Raptors Shoelesshobos 13 指標 8小時前
Learn to manage them loads.
Teach Al the ways of Kawhi.
猛龍球迷:學著對霍福德進行負荷管理啊
學學小卡。
[–]goblinsholiday 42 指標 11小時前
Well, if kawhi missed that shot, they would ve won the series even though the game was tied, and because Nurse found a way to stop Giannis clearly the Sixers would ve too, then GS would ve been a cakewalk even though they were well rested and had just come off of a sweep of Portland
要是上賽季小卡那個絕殺沒進,雖說是平分,但是76人還是可以拿下那輪系列賽的。到了后面打雄鹿的話,納斯對付字母哥的套路76人顯然是要用的,然后打勇士也是輕而易舉,哪怕他們休息充分,還有著橫掃開拓者的余勇。
[–]Lakers Johnnythewinner 27 指標 10小時前
I don’t think there’s anyone in this league with the combination of size and speed of Kawhi that can also go 40 mpg while carrying the offense. Bucks would’ve beaten the Sixers imo
湖人球迷:我覺得聯盟里兼具小卡這種體型和速度、每場包攬球隊進攻還能打40分鐘的球員,沒有第二個。我覺得即便76人挑落猛龍,碰上雄鹿也是個死。
[–]Hawks custom-concern 114 指標 10小時前
The Bucks may be the best team in the league though. If the goal is to win a title, you ll have to beat them. No point in building a team good enough to get to them, then lose. Just go for broke.
老鷹球迷:這賽季的雄鹿也許是聯盟最強隊。如果76人的目標是奪冠,那就得擊敗他們。即便打造出一支優秀到足以和雄鹿在季后賽碰面的球隊,可要是打不過,那也沒意義啊。干脆梭哈一把。
[–]limitmypot 46 指標 10小時前
Hard to imagine any team that is able to beat the Bucks not having a chance to win at all.
你要說能夠擊敗雄鹿的球隊壓根沒機會奪冠的話,那我是不信的。
[–]Hawks custom-concern 36 指標 9小時前
Exactly. I d much rather be in the position of beating the bucks, then coming into the finals as an underdog than just losing to the bucks. If the 6ers really see Horford as their best/only chance to match up against the Bucks then they should absolutely keep him.
老鷹球迷:就是!我倒更愿意先配置一個可以擊敗雄鹿的陣容,然后以弱者的身份打總決賽,這也好過直接輸給雄鹿啊。要是76人真覺得霍福德是他們對抗雄鹿的最強或者唯一機會,那肯定應該留住他。
[–]Wizards acosmichippo 62 指標 11小時前
Don t you think he d also be useful against the Lakers?
奇才球迷:難道你們不認為霍福德打湖人的時候也能派上用場?
[–]76ers forthestreamz 197 指標 11小時前
for what, defending the offensive juggernauts Dwight Howard and Javale McGee?
76人球迷:干啥用?防得住進攻重坦霍華德和麥基?
[–]Cavaliers bball62 23 指標 11小時前
Dwight and Javale would destroy Al on the glass
霍華德和麥基可以在搶板上暴虐霍福德。
[–]Wizards acosmichippo 165 指標 11小時前*
I mean... yeah. Just competing with their size, rim running, rebounding, etc. Stretching the floor a bit on offense.
奇才球迷:我這個意思……好吧,他的身高可以和湖人拼拼啊,還有沖擊籃下、籃板,等等。進攻端也能拉開一點空間。
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[–]Bucks kyleb402 302 指標 12小時前
I mean, Horford didn t exactly do much to limit Giannis in the playoffs last year.
雄鹿球迷:我尋思吧,霍福德上賽季季后賽也沒咋限制住字母哥啊
[–][PHI] Markelle Fultz phillyphiend 91 指標 11小時前
I think it s more about having the ability to roll out a lineup with two to three players capable of slowing down Giannis for 48 minutes every night. Also, being able to have multiple players in a lineup switch onto Giannis with no problem or having two 7 footers double team him when he gets into the paint are valuable tools to have in the defensive scheme
76人球迷:我覺得重點在于派出一套兩三個球員能夠讓字母哥降速的陣容。再者,場上陣容里能有多個球員可以不吃虧地換防字母哥,或者在字母哥進入籃下時能有兩個7尺大個對其施以包夾,這是防守體系里很有價值的套路。
[–]Lakers kok823 26 指標 12小時前
If horford is so good Boston would have kept him. They’re contending as well.
湖人球迷:要是霍福德真有這么好使,那凱爾特人就不會防他走了。畢竟綠軍也在爭冠啊
[–]76ers forthestreamz 43 指標 12小時前
he s still good he s just not a power forward
76人球迷:霍福德依然很不錯,只是他打不了大前鋒了
[–]Thunder moneybooy[S] 17 指標 12小時前
But didn′t he say he prefers to play the 4?
雷霆球迷:可他之前不是說過更想打4號位?
[–]76ers forthestreamz 140 指標 12小時前
he did, doesn t mean he s good at it
76人球迷:他是說過,可這不等于他現在擅長打這個位置
[–]76ers sixplaysforadollar 49 指標 12小時前
Yeah cuz he dont wanna guard big ass bruising dudes. Cant blame him
76人球迷:對啊,因為他不想防那些又高又能撞的大個。這也不怪他
[–]Celtics rajistheman69420 20 指標 11小時前
So does AD
Doesn’t change the fact that they’re both better at the 5
凱爾特人球迷:戴維斯也說更想打四號位呢。可事實是,他倆都是打5號位的時候更強。
[–]Celtics Suzoku 315 指標 12小時前
We tried, but Philly gave him way more money and you can t fault a guy for getting the bag. Also he wasn t aware about Kemba when he made the commitment to Philly.
凱爾特人球迷:我們之前也是盡力想留下霍福德,可是費城給他薪資高太多了,他想賺大錢也沒錯。再說了,霍福德對費城做出承諾的時候也不知道沃克要來。
[–]Celtics NervousPervis 18 指標 12小時前
He was an unrestricted free agent and chose to leave. Cs prioritized Kemba and it made it difficult to work things out with Al. I think we probably wanted him back, but it just didn t happen.
凱爾特人球迷:他當時就是完全自由球員,自己選擇走人的。而且我凱把引進沃克放第一位,那就不好和霍福德談條件了。我覺得也許咱們是希望他留隊的,可就是現實不允許。
[–]Celtics dogmaDRP 104 指標 11小時前
He hinted that he would’ve considered staying in Boston for less if he knew about the Kemba deal before signing with Philly
凱爾特人球迷:霍福德后來暗示過,要是在和費城簽約之前自己知道沃克要來的話,那就會考慮少拿點錢留在波士頓。
[–]Raptors JevvyMedia 136 指標 11小時前
Horford says a lot of things, like saying he would have joined OKC if KD stayed. We all know Horford wants $$$
猛龍球迷:霍福德說了很多哦,比如,他說過要是杜蘭特留在雷霆自己就會去投靠。咱們心知肚明,霍福德要的是錢!
[–]Magic CharlieKellyKapowski 65 指標 11小時前
Who doesnt want $$$
魔術球迷:誰不想要錢??
[–][BOS] Jayson Tatum MemeForce1 9 指標 8小時前
As much as I miss him, he absolutely should pursue the biggest payday possible. NBA careers don t last forever.
凱爾特人球迷:雖說我很想霍福德,不過他絕對應該去追逐最高薪資的。畢竟你又不能一輩子打NBA。
[–]Celtics Remembory 161 指標 12小時前
Horford s greatest strength is nullified by being in a new system with new, established stars. If you watched Al Horford play as a Celtic, you d see him pointing, talking, pushing young players into their spots on defense, etc. Multiple times per game you d see him use his hands to direct other players to their spots.
I m not sure you can expect someone to fulfill that role as the new guy on a team with established stars?
凱爾特人球迷:霍福德的最強點在76人這個當家球星壓陣的新體系下被埋沒了。看看他之前在凱爾特人的比賽,他能指揮、能溝通、推著那些年輕人找準自己的防守位置,等等。每場比賽都有那么幾次,你能看到他用手指揮隊友站位。
他現在以新人的身份去到本身就有球星在的76人,那你還能指望他完全發揮自己的作用嗎?
[–]The_A_Hole_Team 44 指標 10小時前
Exactly how I feel. Al is a great player. Not to say he’s a system player but he did fit into the Celtics defense perfectly. If you’re paying a 33 year old horford to stop giannis you’re pretty dumb.
我就是這個感受。霍福德是個很不錯的球員。我不是說他是個體系球員啊,不過他之前確實和凱爾特人的防守完美匹配。要是你用一個33歲的霍福德去阻攔字母哥,那是真的蠢。
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[–]Lakers Trumppered 57 指標 12小時前
Am I remembering wrong or weren t 76ers fans mostly ecstatic about this signing when it happened?
湖人球迷:當初簽下霍福德的時候76人球迷大多不是很亢奮嗎?難道是我記錯了?
[–]76ers ItsAMeEric 16 指標 11小時前
I still think it is a good signing, and if they can figure out how to play together in the 2nd half of the season, so will all the Sixers fans shitting on him now (and they will have a sudden memory loss of ever disliking him)
76人球迷:我仍然覺得這筆簽約很不錯,要是下半賽季球隊和他磨合好的話,那之前噴過他的76人球迷(他們會瞬間忘掉自己黑過他)也會和我一樣。
[–][TOR] Jose Calderon MasaiGotUsNow 12 指標 11小時前
I can t believe they paid him that much
of course Al is a good player but he s 33. That s insane
猛龍球迷:我非常不解的是,76人居然給霍福德那么大的合同。
他當然是個好球員,可他都33了啊,這太離譜了
[–]76ers Wentzsylvania13 1607 指標 13小時前
I, for one, absolutely love our $109 million backup center. Elton Galaxy Brain Brand is just 5 steps ahead of the rest of the NBA
76人球迷:就我自己哈,絕對的喜歡我們這個1.09億的“替補”中鋒。畢竟埃爾頓-星系腦-布蘭德的眼界要超出其他總經理很多(狗頭)
[–]Celtics /confirm/iation__Bias 919 指標 13小時前
I mean, everything you just said about him was true when you signed him too, and yet you guys loved the signing when it happened. He was a $109 million backup center from the beginning and we tried to tell you it was a huge overpay
凱爾特人球迷:你們簽下他的時候所說的一切都沒毛病,而且你們當時也很喜歡那筆簽約。他那個時候就是一個1.09億的替補中鋒,我們還想告訴你們呢,這個合同溢價太多了。
[–]76ers Dworfe 24 指標 13小時前
Al’s contract is fine. Philly has to make the Finals for his 4th year to be guaranteed more than $14.5m and they have to win the finals for it to become fully guaranteed. The contact is
Win finals: 4 years $109m; final year $26.5m
Reach finals: 4 years $102m; final year $19.5m
No finals: 4 years $97m; Final year $14.5m
76人球迷:霍福德的合同還行。他第四年的薪資要想超過1450萬的話,我們得打進總決賽才行。我們拿下總決賽,他的合同才能完全受保障。具體是這樣的:
總決賽冠軍:4年1.09億,最后一年2650萬
進入總決賽:4年1.02億,最后一年1950萬
沒進總決賽:4年9700萬,最后一年1450萬
[–]Mavericks rustyphish 77 指標 12小時前
4 years $97 million is still bonkers for Al Horford. He s not worth $25 mil/year at his age
獨行俠球迷:4年9700萬給霍福德還是太多了啊。他這個年紀值不了2500萬一年。
[–][PHI] Clarence Weatherspoon theytook-r-jobs 171 指標 13小時前
Everyone knew it was a huge overpay with his age, they just thought he could probably play next to Embiid because of his shooting, while taking the center minutes when Joel is out and being injury insurance. And if we win a title this year or next it’s worth the overpay.
76人球迷:大家當時都知道他這個年紀拿得太多了,可我們就是以為也許他能在恩比德身邊打好輔助,畢竟他有籃子,而且還能在恩比德不在或者養傷的時候頂上中鋒位置。如果這賽季或下賽季我們能奪冠,那這個溢價合同也值了。
[–]Celtics /confirm/iation__Bias 143 指標 13小時前
Horford could ve played the 4 well like three years ago... not now...
His shooting is good for a center but at the 4 he s a mediocre shooter at best in today s NBA.
凱爾特人球迷:霍福德三年前打四號位是蠻厲害的……不是現在……
他的投籃對于中鋒位置來說是不錯的,不過就聯盟現在的四號位而言,充其量就是普普通通。
[–]East loudanduneducated 97 指標 13小時前
Yeah a ton of Philly fans kept saying “Horford is actually a PF” when he hasn’t played primarily as a PF since he was in college.
His defensive ability on the perimeter was definitely falling off in his last year in Boston too.
對啊,一大堆76人球迷總說“霍福德其實是個大前鋒”,可他自從大學后就沒怎么打那個位置了。
上賽季在凱爾特人的時候,他在外線的防守能力就大幅下滑了。
[–]76ers Wentzsylvania13 407 指標 13小時前
Myself and most other sixers fans probably thought that at least one member of our starting lineup would shoot the 3 better than 35%, considering that 3 of them have career percentages above 35%.
76人球迷:我自己和其他大部分76人球迷之前都以為,他來了之后,我們首發里至少能有一個三分命中率超過35%的,畢竟我們有三個首發的生涯三分命中率超過35%。
[–]twentysixzeroeight 160 指標 13小時前
I sometimes wonder how the team would look if they could get reddick and Covington back. They maybe have to give up too much idk how it would all work out. But I feel like they are exactly what philly is missing
有時候我就想著吧,要是雷迪克和考文頓還在的話,76人會是怎樣。也許他們得放棄很多,不過我覺得他倆正是目前的76人所缺少的球員。
[–][ATL] John Collins ShootTheMailMan 104 指標 11小時前
Would you reset to the 2017-18 76ers?
PG: Ben Simmons, T.J. McConnell, Markelle Fultz
SG: J.J. Redick, Jerryd Bayless, Marco Belinelli, Furkan Korkmaz
SF: Robert Covington, Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot, Justin Anderson
PF: Dario Saric, Ersan Ilyasova
C: Joel Embiid, Richaun Holmes, Amir Johnson
老鷹球迷:你是想重啟17/18賽季那支76人?
控衛:西蒙斯、麥康奈爾、富爾茨
分衛:雷迪克、貝勒斯、貝里內利、科克馬茲
小前:考文頓、盧瓦烏-卡巴羅、賈斯汀-安德森
大前鋒:薩里奇、伊利亞索瓦
中鋒:恩比德、里喬恩-霍姆斯、阿米爾-約翰遜
[–]twentysixzeroeight 86 指標 11小時前
No. I don’t think full reset their. I do think with Ben being more dominant even that team would be better. But I still think I’d rather have horford playing the 4 over saric. And idk my opinion on Tobias tbh
不啊,不是完全重啟那套陣容,不過我真覺得,即便是那套陣容,配上更有統治力的西蒙斯之后也會更強。而且我覺得,四號位霍福德比薩里奇好。不過對于哈里斯,我也搞不懂。
[–][ATL] John Collins ShootTheMailMan 114 指標 10小時前
The Tobias and Butler trades really decimated the Sixer s cap, depth. That s what I d want in the reset.
老鷹球迷:哈里斯和巴特勒這兩筆交易真心毀了76人的薪資帽和深度。這才是我想重啟的。
[–]twentysixzeroeight 40 指標 10小時前
Yeah I think the butler trade really hurt them. At the time is was the right move so can’t fault them at all.
是啊,我覺得交易巴特勒真的對76人傷害很大。不過當時這是正確的做法,也不能怪他們。
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[–]kobmug_v2 1061 指標 13小時前
Sixers are far too worried about beating one team instead of just building the best possible team.
The Bucks are not the KD-era Warriors where you need to build to beat them specifically.
76人這操心操過頭了吧,總想著擊敗某支隊伍,卻不想著去打造一支最強陣。
雄鹿又不是阿杜時代的勇士,哪用得著你去費盡心思地以干掉他們為目的打造球隊。
[–]Bucks GiannisIsTheBeast 20 指標 12小時前
The real key is to go all 3 point shooters... trade everyone for the best 3 point shooters in the league. When we lose it s because teams set new 3 point franchise records. If I remember correctly the Sixers did that or came close to it on Christmas.
雄鹿球迷:76人的關鍵在于配備全員三分手……用現有人員去把聯盟最強三分手換來。我們輸球的時候就是因為對手的三分創隊史紀錄。要是沒記錯的話,76人圣誕大戰就是靠這招擊敗我鹿的。
[–]HolyAty 522 指標 13小時前
To be fair, if you don t do something special to stop Giannis, he drops 30pts in 25mins and ices the game.
講真,要是你不想法阻止字母哥,他可以25分鐘輕取30分結束比賽
[–]Clippers 2Blitz 212 指標 13小時前
What if you stop the others and just let Giannis do his thing?
快船球迷:那要是你凍結其他人放字母哥呢?
[–]HolyAty 149 指標 13小時前
I don t think anybody in the league can stop him 1v1 if other 4 people sticks to the other 4 people.
要是其他人都是四對四盯緊,那我覺得沒人能1對1防住字母哥
[–]Clippers 2Blitz 118 指標 13小時前
Sure but what I m saying is, why not just let Giannis get his 30-40 points but stop the rest of his team? His 40 points would seem worthless if the rest of his team aren t performing right?
快船球迷:肯定的,可我的意思是,要不干脆讓字母哥拿個三四十分但是限制他的隊友?要是其他人沒打開,那他的40分也就沒啥意義了
[–]76ers Sweaty_Man 104 指標 13小時前
We did this last year and people still clown us for it. Giannis dropped 52 and lost.
76人球迷:我們上賽季就是這么干的,可很多人還是拿著個取笑我們。字母哥當時得了52分,輸球了。
[–]Bucks iFinesseThePlug 82 指標 12小時前*
But then two weeks later he dropped 45 against the Sixers and we won.
雄鹿球迷:可是兩周之后他在你們頭上得了45分,我們贏了
[–][BOS] Gigi Datome dk240996 24 指標 13小時前
The Kyrie-less Celtics tried that in East finals against LeBron and it worked up until Game 7, where if not for Rockets missing 27 threes in a row later on, everyone would be talking how bad our shooting night was. This Bucks team has a better supporting cast than that Cavs team had though.
凱爾特人球迷:沒有歐文的凱爾特人當年東決打老詹的時候也用過這招,G7之前還挺管用的,要不是火箭那年27個三分打鐵,當年成為笑柄的就是我們的冰涼手感。不過這支雄鹿的輔助陣容要比當年的騎士強。
[–]Raptors Soularion 180 指標 13小時前
The Bucks are an extremely strong defense. You can t stop them by letting Giannis make them a good offense. With the exception of game 3 (where George Hill and Pat Connaughton combined for 35) the Boston series was largely defined by their inability to score; they scored 102, 101 and 91 in their other 3 losses.
Raptors vs Bucks was also a purely defensive series. With the exception of game 4 (where the bench popped off in a home must-win) the Raptors scored 96, 105 and 100 in regulation. They kept the Bucks to 96, 102, 99 and 94.
You are not holding the Bucks under a hundred points by letting Giannis have his, and you are not beating the Bucks if you let them score.
猛龍球迷:雄鹿的防守超級強悍。哪怕放著字母哥在進攻端砍瓜切菜也限制不了雄鹿。上賽季凱爾特人打雄鹿的系列賽里,除了G3(喬治-希爾和康諾頓一共拿下35分),凱爾特人被淘汰主要還是因為他們得不了分,輸掉的其他三場比賽里綠軍得分分別是:102、101和91.
猛龍打雄鹿也是一輪純防守的系列賽。除了G4(主隊必須拿下的比賽里板凳暴走),猛龍取勝的其他場次常規時間得分分別是:96、105和100。而雄鹿失利的得分分別是:96、102、99和94
要是讓字母哥打開了,那就沒法把雄鹿的得分限制在100以內,要是你讓他們得分的話,那就沒法擊敗他們。
[–]Raptors everything_raptors 440 指標 13小時前
Sixers are trying to do what the raptors did last year. Have Simmons (kawhi in the raptors case) defend Giannis one on one and then have Al and Joel (gasol and ibaka/siakam) wall off the paint. It might work, but they’d have to score on the other end which might be an issue.
猛龍球迷:76人這是想走上賽季猛龍的老路呢。讓西蒙斯(類似猛龍的小卡)單防字母哥,然后再讓霍福德和恩比德(小加和伊巴卡或西卡)在禁區筑墻。也許有用,不過他們在進攻端得打開啊,或許這是個大問題。
[–]Jmacd20 174 指標 13小時前
Simmons doesn’t see much time on Giannis, he’s primarily defended by embiid when the they play the bucks. Simmons can probably handle on a switch or to give a different look, but giannis is too much for him. I think the plan is embiid with horford getting something other minutes guarding Giannis.
西蒙斯不會防字母哥那么長時間的,打雄鹿的時候,主要是恩比德防字母哥。西蒙斯大概可以換防,不過扛字母哥還是太難。我覺得76人的計劃是恩比德為主,霍福德為輔。
[–]Raptors bigboypantss 14 指標 11小時前
Giannis bounces Simmons off him like a little kid, which always surprises me cause they aren t that different in size.
猛龍球迷:字母哥推西蒙斯就像推小孩兒一樣,這是我想不到的,畢竟他倆塊頭也沒那么大的差距。
[–]notsurewhereelse 11 指標 8小時前
Simmons obviously isn’t weak but he’s not exceptionally strong for his size whereas Giannis is bigger AND exceptionally strong for his size
西蒙斯的身板明顯是不弱的,不過他這個體格算不上很壯,而字母哥的塊頭更大,且非常強壯!
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